Here's a confession you rarely get from a founder. Micky Ogando, Founder and CCO of Bakery, tells Matt Wurst and Valerie Vespa that handing over ownership would be the easiest thing in the world, because he never wanted to run anything. He'd rather sit in the bullpen making cool ideas and let smart people steer the company. The catch: Bakery keeps winning, which makes the case for stepping back a lot harder. Matt lands the truth of it, sometimes the thing you're best at is the thing you enjoy least. Full episode on the Snarketing Podcast.